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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Are you ready? Yeah.
[00:00:01] Speaker B: Are you with it?
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: Okay, let's go.
[00:00:04] Speaker A: You know what to do.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: The whole world's watching and counting on you. And all you people listening out there.
Everybody everywhere. Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Welcome to Checkered Past. A loving postmodern examination of the. Go.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: Go.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: Check. Branded comic magazines published by DC Comics between February 1966 and August 1967.
I'm Dr. Bob and each week I'll be your guide on this trippy tour through 535 mid century masterpieces of graphic noveldom. This week, Sugar and Spike 70. Cover date April, May 1967. Cover price, $0.12. Cover artist Sheldon Mayer. Edited by Murray Boltanoff. Featuring pocket size counterspies. Written and drawn by Sheldon Mayer and fox and the Crow 103. Cover date April May 1967. Cover price, 12 cents. Cover artist Jay Winslow Mortimer. Edited by Murray Boltanov. Featuring title Unknown Written by Arnold Drake. Art by J. Winslow Mortimer. Are you ready? Are you with it? Then away we go.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: Go.
[00:01:23] Speaker B: Open up your eyes take a look at the world around you don't you want to lend a helping hand?
[00:01:32] Speaker A: Try it on your sides you'll be glad to feeling like you come along
[00:01:37] Speaker B: and join in with the band.
Sugar and Spike grow to giant size and Stanley gets bullied in skule. Confused. Don't worry. I'll be right back with doctor Husband to explain everything.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: This giant will dream no more
[00:01:58] Speaker B: 1s
[00:01:59] Speaker A: stood as high as a mountain
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Like
[00:02:07] Speaker A: a giant I could see all around the world was mine
[00:02:19] Speaker B: I had her
[00:02:21] Speaker A: love but then my girl let me down
[00:02:30] Speaker B: oh, hi. Hi.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: How are you?
[00:02:31] Speaker B: I'm fine. How are you?
What's wrong?
[00:02:35] Speaker A: I'm a little sore. I might have some bruises on me tomorrow.
[00:02:38] Speaker B: What happened?
[00:02:39] Speaker A: I went to a massage therapist because I've been having problems with my neck and shoulders.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: And back.
And he. I did it. I registered for an hour of deep tissue work.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: And that's exactly what he did.
And at one point, it was so painful. And I didn't. You know, I could have told him to stop. I did not. And he knew it was painful.
There were tears running out of my eyes.
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: Listener. The local massage parlor is out in the country and it's got the cleverest name.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: It does, doesn't it?
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Back Acres.
Get it. Because acr you have an achy back, but it's also out in the country.
[00:03:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: I love clever business names.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: He's very strong. He's very strong and he's just a wee thing. He's just a, you know. Just a. I don't know, just.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: He's a wiry gentleman.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: Okay. Yes, I know the type.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: So. Yeah, so I'm, I am like, I'm feeling so, so, so good, but also very, very sore because those muscles released for the most part. There's still some tension there. A little bit of, well, not tension, a little bit of soreness. Right.
But it had gotten so bad, like it would wake me up, you know, the pain. Yeah.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: And you don't sleep that well anyway.
[00:04:08] Speaker A: I know.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Well, my day went great too. Did it? Yeah.
I worked, of course.
And you know, I'm music directing the Little Mermaid at the local theatrical company.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: So we've finished up auditions for that today.
Good, good, good.
As you know, I always think I'm on the verge of being fired, but my boss sent me bourbon in the mail, so I signed for it. Didn't. Thank you.
I guess I'm in good graces for now.
Yes.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: That is unfortunate that you always feel like you're on the verge of being fired.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: Well, you know, I have to have something to obsess about.
[00:04:48] Speaker A: What was. I wanted to tell you. Oh, I had the best day yesterday. I had so much fun.
I, I and my friend and piano teacher. Excuse me, guitar teacher, made a little field trip.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: Down to Alexandria, Virginia yesterday.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:05:03] Speaker A: To see a luthier. To do a little bit of work on my new guitar. New to me.
I mean, it's my same guitar, but it's relatively new. There's kind of a settling in period.
[00:05:17] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: For newly made instruments. And so he just did a little couple tweaks on it and we just had fun. Cause it was basically a full day with the traffic and whatnot. And then we went out to eat afterwards, this little cafe had some delicious quiche and cafe coffees and it was just great. It was great.
[00:05:38] Speaker B: Real men don't eat quiche.
Oh.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: And of course the big news is, of course, that I've started studying my mba, taking the first course.
And I'm cursing the day that I decided to do it right now. I chose the hardest course and it's just so difficult. Difficult?
[00:05:54] Speaker B: Oh, you don't have to take them in order.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: No, but. No, I don't. But I, I took the first introductory course in managerial accounting.
And it's something that I do at work.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:06:08] Speaker A: But I didn't have formulas for doing it or if I needed to, I would consult with an accountant to get some advice.
So I am learning about managerial accounting, which is basically just.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: Oh God, it sounds boring.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: No, it's just examining your operations, your profits, your expenses, your fixed and variable expenses and such, and then using it to forecast what might happen.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: Honk snee.
Honk snee.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: So it's really, really, it's interesting.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: It's just.
[00:06:40] Speaker A: I'm waiting. So I have an electronic textbook.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:45] Speaker A: And I don't do well with just completely digital formats. I really like paper.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:06:50] Speaker A: So I'm waiting for my. Not my. I didn't order the textbook itself. I ordered a loose leaf printing of the text. Because the text itself is not just a textbook. It's also like textbook and quizzes and videos and stuff just by clicking on things. And so, so, and it was, it was a fraction of the cost of the textbook. But I, I know this of myself, that I'm much better at being able to place my hands on something and write in it and such and make notes. And I can't do that with a digital format. So. Well, Anyway, so I'm in my second week of the seven week course. So by the end of, by next Monday I'll be 2/7 of the way through. Almost a third of the way through.
[00:07:32] Speaker B: Fantastic.
[00:07:33] Speaker A: And I will be really, really happy.
[00:07:36] Speaker B: At least you can read. Not like babies.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Stupid babies.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: Sugar and Spike, number 70, special spring issue. Sugar and Spike are giants. They've grown giant and burst through the top of downtown office building. Building. And they don't know how it happened to them because they can't read.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: This is the zaniest novel length adventure we've ever come across.
[00:07:56] Speaker B: Well, certainly in Sugar and Spike Land.
[00:07:59] Speaker A: Mm.
[00:08:00] Speaker B: Right, Right.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: Okay. There's no way for us to do a sort of like a read in with a.
[00:08:05] Speaker B: Sure there is. Did you ever have a toy airplane or a model car that was so perfect you wished you were small enough to ride in it? I have.
You know that model of Falkenstein that I bought from the Franklin Mint 20 years ago? It cost $75 and I thought it was the most precious thing I'd ever bought in my whole life. And I've still got it. I wished I could shrink down and get in that.
[00:08:30] Speaker A: That's Falkenstein.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: Falkenstein, Yes.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: I thought it was Neuschwanstein.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: No. Okay, it's Falkenstein. Which was never built. It was an imaginary castle that King Ludwig designed, but then he died before it was ever built or spent all the treasury or institutionalized or something.
Anyway, yes. I wish I could shrink small enough to get creep around that castle.
Or did you ever have a lovely doll costume you wished you were tiny enough to wear. No, let me think.
[00:09:03] Speaker A: Strawberry Shortcake dolls.
[00:09:05] Speaker B: Strawberry shortcake, yes. Well, you know, when I was five years old, we had a. I had a hand me down witch costume with yarn, hair and everything.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: You did.
[00:09:14] Speaker B: And I would put on that witch costume year round, run around the house cackling like a witch.
In other words, did you ever wonder what would happen if you could somehow shrink to toy size? Yes, because I watched every episode of Dr. Shrinker.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: Several times I've been wanting to say. But you just leap in. Yes, yes, me too. And that would be all of my Star wars action figures.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: Oh, for sure.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: I wish that I could be in the LANCE Cruiser or whatever.
Yes, all of the spaceships, everything. I wanted to be in them and fly them around. I used to pretend like I was. I used to actually hold it in front of my eyes and fly around with it like that, you know, in my room.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: And pretend like I was seeing the point of view from the driver's seat.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: Or the pilot's seat. Yeah.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: Well, that land speeder was a great toy, wasn't it?
[00:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I.
We had shag orange carpet in our house, so I could never run it in the carpet. And then of course we lived in Florida, so there was sand outside. So. Yeah, I never had a real good surface that I could run it on.
[00:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah, we had wood floors, so that worked for me.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: It wouldn't all be gravy. However, there would be problems as Sugar and Spike found out, because it happened to them in pocket Size Counter Spies. A complete novel length story.
So Spike pops his head into Sugar's window one day and says that his dad has brought home a boatload full of toys for him.
Scattered them all over the house.
So he brings Sugar.
Well, I guess now they're in Sugar's house or Spike's house. I don't know whose house they're in. But the two dads have gotten together because Spike's dad's gonna show off all his toys.
Turns out his boss wanted him to bring these models home for the weekend because he doesn't trust his safe. And these are all part of a top secret government project.
They are not toys. In fact, they are perfect working models in every detail, only tiny. We've got a tiny rocket. Tiny rocket. A air gun battery, assault cannon sort of thing. A tank, a transport truck of some kind. What do you call those?
The big transport trucks. But they had a canvas.
[00:11:37] Speaker A: Transport vehicles? I don't know.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: Well, I don't either. Yeah, it's like in Indiana Jones, right?
[00:11:43] Speaker A: You put gear or people in the back and it's covered with canvas.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: So Spike's gonna try to get his dad's attention. Cause he thinks these toys are for him.
And of course, the babies don't understand grown up talk. And grownups don't understand baby talk. So there's not going to be any pact signed in this household today.
Now, the secret is that these models can be sent anywhere in the world on the cheap. Because they're tiny. If you're sending full size equipment, it costs a lot of money. Jet fuel.
And that's in short supply these days.
But he's also. Boss has sent home a secret ray projector. If you aim it at the models and press the button, they grow into full size equipment immediately.
Now, Sugar and Spike have not been noticed yet. So they rush in, steal the toys.
They get a good spanking for it. And they're put into the playpen.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: Timeout.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: That playpen is barely enough.
Big enough for one baby, Much less these two tubs of lard.
All right. The kids are very mad. The dads cannot understand baby talk. But they can understand that the children are angry.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: Nonetheless, the dads leave the children in the playpen and go to have some coffee right in the kitchen. I bet they're gonna have something stronger than coffee.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Probably.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: Because I bet that boss sent his employees in bourbon as well.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: Meanwhile, at the window, two spies.
[00:13:28] Speaker B: Spectacled gentlemen there in trench coats and hats over their eyes. So you know they're up to no good then.
[00:13:34] Speaker A: Foreign.
Probably named Golliwog or something.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: Yes. Or Tarzan.
It's number 402. And 403. They're spies. And they have brought along a Reverso ray gun.
Because they see the enlarging ray.
So they fire the Reverso ray gun at the enlarging ray.
Witnessed by Sugar and Spike.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: Which will make it do something the
[00:14:03] Speaker B: opposite of what it's.
[00:14:04] Speaker A: Isn't it interesting that they're using light technology against a machine that has light technology?
Everything in the past is so amazingly simple.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: I saw a thing. Did you see that YouTube video that my sister sent?
[00:14:16] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:14:17] Speaker B: About 1960. Imagining life in 2000.
And it was just like the Jetsons. The father and the little boy video phoned in from another part of the house to ask mom when lunch was gonna be ready.
And lunch involved her pressing a button. Everybody got the thing they wanted right?
[00:14:41] Speaker A: On disposable plates.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: On disposable plates. And it's just like the trans matter machine in Star Trek, she just pressed a button and she had shrimp and avocado. And dad, she suggested something. A cheese omelet for dad. And he said, how about a cheese burger with fries and a cold beer?
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: And I said, how about you get off your fat ass and walk into the next room and press your own damn lunch button?
There's no more to it than that.
[00:15:10] Speaker A: Well, all the food comes to them frozen, and then it's selected and all of the. I watched the whole video. Yeah, not the whole video, but I listened carefully.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: The food comes prepackaged, pre frozen and everything. And then it's thawed to their desire and then placed in those.
Excuse me, in this trays.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he can do that. He doesn't even have to cook it himself. No, no, I understand. In the 60s, men didn't know how to cook.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: Well, you know, as things get.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: Except on every fourth Sunday morning when they'd come in the kitchen and make scrambled eggs and brains or. Oh, God, make an egg sandwich before they went to bed or something. I know men can do that.
Now, Sugar and Spike break out of this playpen and go to examine the enlarging ray.
And they press the button. And since it's been programmed now to do the opposite, it shrinks them down to tiny doll size. Yeah.
All right. The spies think they've succeeded because obviously when they go to demonstrate this enlarging ray, it's not going to work.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Right.
And they take off.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: They beat it back in the house.
The father's come out of the kitchen drunk and the kids on coffee. The kids are missing. They're actually hiding between one of the father's.
Between his shoes because he's wearing lifts, apparently, and he's got a big wedge heel.
All right. The dads go outside to look for the kids.
Sugar and Spike figure out in quick order what's happened.
They're going to see if they can use the ray to get themselves back to normal. But Sugar stops the whole action because she wants to get involved in all these toy tanks and things.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah, she wants to play with them.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: All right. They get inside the little toy tank. They start driving it around.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: They just press buttons. Everything's buttons.
[00:17:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
So the dads come back in. They're very confused by how the tank's moving by itself. But before they can do anything, the tank blasts a hole in the wall and out the kids go out. They go out into the neighborhood and
[00:17:32] Speaker A: they run into the spies.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: The spies who try to capture the
[00:17:37] Speaker A: tank in a trash can.
[00:17:39] Speaker B: Because they think now they've got. There's tiny robot soldiers in there.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: Robots. Yes.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: All right. They get the tank into a trash can.
Well, they don't actually. Because the dads come out chasing the tank.
Right.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: I'm flipping forward a few pages here. And where is that?
Yes. The dads come chasing after the tank that has gone through the house wall and down the sidewalk. The kids are pressing buttons, trying to figure out what to do. Of course they can't read. The tank reverses, it trips up the fathers. The fathers are caught. Both fathers are caught into a trash can.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: Head first. The trash can.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Unconscious.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: Not unconscious.
Now, in case you're not familiar with Sugar and Spike, the adults.
Not all the adults, but the parents are like Charlie Brown adults. You never see their faces.
[00:18:34] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: So the dads now are trapped in the trash can. The spies grab up this tank.
They look inside to find the tiny robots, but by that time, Sugar and Spike have slipped out somehow. We don't know where they are.
How can the tank be empty? The last time we saw Zucker and Spike, weren't they in it?
[00:18:57] Speaker A: Maybe it's radar controlled.
Well, maybe have it analyzed. So they decide to take it away. So one of the spies has the tank. The other spy has a trash can that he's holding just by the two handles with two human beings in it.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: Full size. Adult men.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Well, he must be awfully strong. Maybe he's a Russian spy. You know how they are.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: Or the fathers are wiry, wispy things.
[00:19:18] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: Or both.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Because, you know, they can't cook for themselves, so they probably don't weigh very much.
[00:19:24] Speaker A: They can make a Sanka.
Oh, don't. I love a Sanka.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: I know you do. Well, Sugar and Spike have slipped out of the tank. And they're actually hidden on the top of this one spy's fedora.
So the spy that has the tank, he's going back to also steal the enlarging ray. Back at Spike's house, Sugar and Spike are bound and determined to put a stop to all this. So Spike slips out of the hat. He's going to climb down, but he
[00:20:00] Speaker A: falls off of the coat and pants of one of the spies, the Red Spy.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: And plops onto the ground.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: Yes. Now Sugar's leaving Sugar to be taken with the parents in the trash can. The dad's in the trash can.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:15] Speaker A: And Sugar is in the clothing. Or on the hat.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: Right.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Of Red Spy. So Spike is left to his own devices. He runs into the house, immediately goes to try to figure out how can I follow them? I need the fastest thing possible. I know. I've seen this very big. This very thing before. I've seen the big boys play with toys like this. They make them fly like birds. He chooses a jet.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Jet airplane.
Now he's gonna get in there and start pushing buttons. Meanwhile, here come the moms, back from shopping.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: They're so exhausted.
They're so happy. Because they weren't exhausted? No, because they had to. Because the men stayed home while they did their shopping and they didn't have to deal with the children.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: You know, I bet they went downtown to the Lazarus Brothers department store and had lunch at the. At the Chintz Room.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: The Chintz Room? Yes.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: That's where my grandmother misses oh, they had a famous Chintz Room celery dressing.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: Oh, I see. Yes. Do you think they had deviled eggs,
[00:21:15] Speaker B: probably with caviar or wedge salad? Well, they didn't have wedge salads in my day because that's a scam foisted upon the American people.
[00:21:25] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:21:27] Speaker B: My grandmother, Mrs. White, she used to take me down to the downtown Lazarus, and we'd have luncheon at the Chintz Room, which was on the fifth floor.
That's very fancy.
All right.
[00:21:38] Speaker A: Did you know how to behave?
[00:21:39] Speaker B: Me?
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: Yes. I was a shy, quiet child.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:21:44] Speaker B: I'd never act up in front of Mrs. White.
Can bet you that she wore gloves to drive downtown to Lazarus. Did she really? Yes. White gloves.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: Oh, I love that.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: And a rainbonnet if it was misting out.
Of course, when I was older, I'd ride the bus downtown by myself.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: Yes, I remember the story about that one time when you were riding the bus and you were wearing your mother's coat.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: I was wearing my mother's great coat because I didn't have a winter coat. And my hair was long and my voice had not changed.
And so I got called ma' am all day, even while dining at the Chintz Room by myself.
And I got sprayed with perfume because I was shy and obedient. And I didn't say, no, thank you. I just let them spray me. No, thank you.
[00:22:33] Speaker A: I see it right now. Ma', am, would you like some?
[00:22:35] Speaker B: Oh, thank you.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: Is that Charlie?
[00:22:38] Speaker B: Oh, Angelique.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:22:40] Speaker B: What would my mother wear? Opium.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: Oh, no, back then. Are you sure?
[00:22:44] Speaker B: Not back then, but no. Jungle Gardenia.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: Of course.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: Thank you.
All right.
So the mothers obviously are also drunk, coming back from downtown shopping.
They come in and see this plane flying around the living room, and they open the door, and out it flies.
And the fathers and the children nowhere to be found because you can't trust men to watch babies while they're unconscious
[00:23:11] Speaker A: in a trash can.
[00:23:12] Speaker B: But they don't know that.
All right. Spike's taken off in this jet across the countryside. He finds this car with the spies in it.
They report back to their secret headquarters.
They show the tank in the enlarging ray to their boss, who calls them idiots because we don't want them to know that we suspect that they have it.
They reveal then that they also brought the US men who they think are secret agents, but aren't. It's just dads, they tell them. They. They tell the boss that they weren't followed. But he says, if you weren't followed a then what do you call this? And he points right at Sugar, still in the hat.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Nestled in the hat.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Now, what's going to happen?
So this boss spy snatches up Sugar by her ponytail.
He also assumes that she's a tiny miniature robot soldier, even though it looks like a baby.
The boss says that's part of their plan to make the soldiers look like harmless babies.
And then we won't have the heart to fight back. What a diabolical scheme.
Sugar starts speaking her baby talk and the spies assume it's code language because why wouldn't you?
So they're gonna fire the reverso ray on Sugar to see if it will turn her jabber into English.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: Sugar makes a break for it. She runs up the spy's. The spy boss's sleeve.
He's being tickled to death.
He takes his jacket off. She's inside the pocket.
The boss asks for a cigar. And the other spy grabs up Sugar again by her ponytail. This girl's not gonna have any hair by the end of the day.
[00:25:21] Speaker A: Poor thing. She'd be screaming if she was, you know, wasn't having so much fun.
[00:25:27] Speaker B: He. The spy.
Oh. She bites the spy.
He drops her into the bag with the.
I've lost track of which ray.
[00:25:36] Speaker A: This is the reversal ray.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: She is about aims it at them.
They don't know what's going to happen because they haven't had any rays affect them up to this point. Just then, Spike in the jet airplane busts through the window, lands in the bag with the reverse O Ray and Sugar.
And they fire the reverse array at the same moment that the spies are firing the reducto. No, the enlarging ray, which has been reversed so that it's going to make them even smaller.
The two beams meet. And what do you think happens when they meet?
[00:26:24] Speaker A: It Was Mida. The children die, story's over.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: No, unfortunately, they just grow to giant size.
[00:26:32] Speaker A: Yes. They outgrow the buildings.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: They outgrow the building.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: They are holding the spies in their hands like dolls.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: And.
[00:26:40] Speaker A: Well, Spike has the spies.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: And the boss and Sugar has. The father's in the trash can.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: What was the name of that candy that came in a little garbage pail and it was just like little pebbles packed. Sugar? No, shaped like garbage. Like you'd have the fish skeleton and other garbage shapes and it was just like, you know, it was like Pez flavor.
[00:27:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It was like little sweet things.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: Oh, that was great.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: Was it?
[00:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I used to love that. You know, I'd help Mary Kay Riemann Schneider with her paper root every day after Skill.
Her dad had built her and her sister giant two wheeled wagons that they
[00:27:26] Speaker A: pull around behind their bicycles.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: No, it was like a wheelbarrow.
No, no bicycles were involved. You'd have to wheel it like a wheelbarrow. And they'd load all their evening papers. The Columbus Dispatch was the evening paper.
And they'd wheel their newspapers around the neighborhood on their route. And I always helped Mary Kay because she was nicer. And she'd give me a quarter. We'd halfway through. Her route was 7 11. So she'd give me a quarter and I could buy candy. And I'd often buy a garbage pail full of sugar or wax lips or something like that. Sometimes an everlasting gobstopper. Wow.
I always helped her because Janet was meaner to me. She bossed me around. But Mary Kay was very kind.
Well, that's my story.
Do you?
[00:28:17] Speaker A: I do.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: All right.
So they're gonna rescue their dads.
Spike advises that they leave them in the trash can for the time being till they get home.
So they trudge across town at giant size. I can't believe they weren't stopped by the army or something on their way home.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: How were they not stopped? And how did they find their way home?
[00:28:44] Speaker B: Yeah, they're babies. Well, they're giant babies. So maybe they could see their house. Maybe the air.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Well, they take their father. Sugar takes the fathers and puts them in the trash can. Just throws them into the house.
[00:28:56] Speaker B: Into the house where the wives discover them?
[00:28:58] Speaker A: Yes, along with the spies.
[00:29:00] Speaker B: Along with the spies who are hiding behind the couch.
Sugar and Spike go off to play in their new dollhouse land. Because they're giants now.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: It's just like normal sized houses are dollhouses for them.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: All right, just then agents from the U.S. counter Espionage Society Pop. In
[00:29:24] Speaker A: society,
[00:29:26] Speaker B: the dads are concerned, especially the one that was entrusted with all his equipment from his boss because he thinks he's messed up some valuable government property.
And the counterespionage gentleman informs him that none of it really is valuable.
It was all a trap. A plot to uncover the spy ring.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: Wow. The father was used.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: The spy boss says, but they worked. Everything worked. We saw it work. Everything made everything bigger and smaller. And counterespionage gentleman says, yes, well, everything
[00:30:02] Speaker A: will be back to its normal size in a few minutes.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: It was only temporary.
[00:30:06] Speaker A: Still, it's amazing technology to be able to do that.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
Of course now the parents are concerned about the babies. They don't know where they are.
And counterespionage gentlemen say they're right here underneath the window. They're back to normal size.
We hadn't planned on them uncovering the spy ring, but they sure did turn out to be heroes. They captured the spies single handed.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: Now Sugar is cranky because after all that time, even though they're getting cake as a reward, and you know, it's the 60s so the piece of cake is like a quarter of a cake.
But all this time we had all those gadgets to make things bigger and we never once thought to use the enlarging ray on a piece of cake.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: Oh gee.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: Do do do do do do.
This story was for Walter Klinger, Toronto, Canada.
Kim Rooker, age 10 and a half of Scoot.
Scootville, Ohio. I can't, I. I'm from maybe Sciotaville, Ohio. Yeah, There's a Scioto river.
Jolin Oliver, age 15, San Jose, California. And Maria Rocla, age 12.
Rio Piedras, Puerto Rico.
[00:31:32] Speaker A: Rio Piedras.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: Written and drawn by Sheldon Mayer. Of course I do like he's a very nice gentleman.
Was Sheldon Mayer because someone writes in. Arnold Eakin from St. Louis, Missouri writes in age 13. He wants to know all about what kind of pens Sheldon Mayer uses to ink his work.
He's got a collection of Sheldon Mayer's clippings going back to 1935. I've been following your work since I was 8 years old.
Clippings and old magazines that I've traded from other collectors. I noticed that your ink line has changed somewhat over the years. Your very earliest work was done I think with a crow quill pen. Later you began to use a more flexible line. Did you switch to a brush or a springer pen point, blah blah blah. Do you think college is important? Do you study other cartoonists work? Which do you recommend? Have you ever done Any serious painting? Do you think it helps? Have you ever done any serious writing? Do you think that helps? Please answer as many of these questions as possible.
He answers every single one.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: He sure does.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: What a kind man.
He loved children. I bet.
Except for one particular child.
Stanley.
Yes, because Stanley's got a monster.
[00:32:53] Speaker A: Oh, Stanley and his monster.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: Actually, I feel bad for Stanley in this story. Yeah. Cause he gets bullied a little bit,
[00:32:59] Speaker A: but that awful kid.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: This is Fox.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: And the crowd took a little break for a second.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: You are. Well, I don't have any filler. What can I put in?
[00:33:07] Speaker A: I don't know. I just only need a glass of ice water.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Okay. All right.
Hey, folks.
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[00:34:22] Speaker B: Fox and the Crow 103 featuring Stanley and his monster.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: And there's a cover of Stanley and his monster. And they are. This story on the COVID is. Is not at all referential to anything that happens inside.
[00:34:38] Speaker B: No. Maybe that's why. What happened? The story inside doesn't have a title at all.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Stanley and his Monster.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: Stanley found a monster, but he thought it was a hound.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: The monster won't deny it cause he liked being found.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: Now the two bunked together snug. A slipper's warmest toast with a gremlin and a dwarf.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: And Napoleon's ghost.
[00:35:02] Speaker B: Well, Stanley's in school and he's brought a photograph of his monster who's named Massachusetts.
And there's a brat kid. You know he's a brat because he's wearing a three piece suit in elementary school.
[00:35:18] Speaker A: And he looks so mean and horrible.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: He's not very attractive and he's tattling on Stanley because Stan for showing pictures of monsters to kids right. In school.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: Of course, if you're new to listening to this, the reason we did the Stanley like this is because Stanley's text is drawn.
Excuse me. Stanley's text is. Is written FFB Has a very pronounced dental list.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: Yes. What's that called?
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Lateral lift, I believe, or dental lateral. I don't know.
All right. The teacher doesn't ask any questions. She just plops a dunce cap right down on Stanley's head.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: Oh, fucking love the dunce cap.
[00:36:02] Speaker B: Did you ever have to wear one?
[00:36:04] Speaker A: No, I did have. I did get in trouble quite frequently. Because you talked a lot in elementary school. I did.
And my teacher would draw a circle on the chalkboard, and you would have to stick your nose in the circle and stay there. Stand there,
[00:36:21] Speaker B: for heaven's sakes. Yeah, well, I never had to do that. Of course, I was shy and obedient, so I never got in trouble.
That's true. I never had a detention. Not once in my whole life.
Not even in high school.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: I couldn't keep my damn mouth shut as a child. You know, I just talked. I just loved to be social, which is so funny, because I'm not. I mean, I do enjoy my friends, but I'm not extroverted like I was when I was younger. I'm very much an introvert.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: Actually, I did get in trouble one time, but it was not my fault.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: I remember. Patty, right? Not someone. Was her name.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: What?
[00:36:58] Speaker A: The girl who said that you said something, but you didn't.
[00:37:01] Speaker B: Oh, Kelly Curry. Yeah. She said I called her a bitch, and I didn't.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: Right.
[00:37:05] Speaker B: And our new principal, Mr. Bongiorno, he said, if I ever hear anything about you causing trouble again, I'm gonna come down on you like a ton of bricks.
But that was not what I was thinking of. I was thinking of kindergarten.
I was a mouth breather when I was in kindergarten, so I always had my mouth open, breathing.
And the teacher had her back turned. And Cynda Weber made some kind of a sassy remark. And the teacher turned around and saw me with my mouth open and assumed I'd made the sassy remark.
So I got in trouble for that. I think I had to stay in from recess.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:37:45] Speaker B: I know.
[00:37:47] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: Cinda Weber lived two houses down. She was my mortal enemy.
And after I rescued their cat, their pregnant cat got trapped in Mr. Eckenrode's garage. He hated cats. We think he shot our cat, Groucho.
Well, the cat got trapped in his garage and Then he died.
[00:38:06] Speaker A: The cat died. Not mister.
[00:38:07] Speaker B: Mr. Ayenrode died.
[00:38:08] Speaker A: Oh. Oh, okay.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: So I was down there roller skating. Cause they had an excellent roller skating driveway. And I heard cat meowing in their garage for several days.
[00:38:19] Speaker A: Why'd you let it go so long?
[00:38:20] Speaker B: Well, I didn't know what to do. I didn't know if it was a real cat or if it was Mr. Eckinrode's ghost or. What happened? Well, finally, I went up to Mrs. Eckinrode's door and knocked, and I said, I think there's a cat in your garage. I finally talked her into opening the garage, and what do you know? This pregnant cat comes out, and it was Webber's cat.
[00:38:36] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: And even after that cinder, Webber was still mean to me.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: I had to sit in fifth grade.
Mr. Weddle took the desk. He'd make, like, a little cloverleaf pattern out of four desks so we were facing each other. And she'd kick my shin. All day, every day, all the whole school year long.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:38:56] Speaker B: I know.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: You're just like.
[00:38:59] Speaker B: And I was shy and obedient. I never complained, said anything. I just took it. All the bruises. Mm.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: It hurts to get kicked in the shin.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Yes, it does.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: Mm.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Well, it's made me stronger today. I bet.
[00:39:12] Speaker A: Well, made you a perfect foil for me and our marriage.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: It's only made me.
[00:39:18] Speaker A: Made you so tolerant.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: Live in perpetual fear of being fired at any moment.
All right. Stanley has his dunce cap on. Well, he can't see because it covers his eyes. So he walks across the room and crunches this.
Seymour. That's his name.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: I was gonna say young Jerry steps
[00:39:38] Speaker B: on his foot later that day. The teacher is teaching them about how things grow.
And she was going to show them some more, but her little can of planting soil is missing. Does planting soil come in cans these days?
[00:39:54] Speaker A: I mean, it came in bags.
Who knows? She just has a can of cannings, of can.
Planting soil.
[00:40:00] Speaker B: Well, the recess bell rings, and she orders everyone into their raincoats and rubbers because it's pouring rain.
Well, when I was in school, we didn't go to recess outside if it was pouring rain. We go to the gymnasium.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: Yeah, the gymnasium.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
Well, they're all getting the raincoats on, and Seymour puts his rain hat on. And what do you think it's full of? Potting soil.
[00:40:27] Speaker A: Potting soil and mud. Mm.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: That was Stanley's doing that night at Stanley's home.
Mr. Dover, Stanley's father is pleased as punch that his boy got back at A bully.
That's what my dad always wanted me to do. Punch Cinder Webber right in the face.
Punch her? Yes.
Now, what's her name? Sylvia.
Mitch and Sylvia. Right. I don't know her.
[00:40:56] Speaker A: Sylvia.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Mitch and Sylvia.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Mitch and Sylvia.
She tells him to stop encouraging the boy or I'm not gonna punch button your dinner anymore.
Dad wants him to be a fighter like the other kids, and Sylvia sticks up for him. She says, I don't care if he's like other kids. He's his own boy, not a carbon copy of Average Junior America.
[00:41:20] Speaker A: Then she sends a boy up to. Up to his room.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: We will not continue this conversation in the boy's presence. Stanley, up to your room.
Well, he's delighted because it's time to feed his quote unquote dog anyway.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: Well, he's got several mouths to feed. He's got a gigantic monster and two dwarves.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: Well, a leprechaun and a gnome.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: Yeah, like a German and an Irish.
[00:41:42] Speaker B: And apparently mom has punched up an extra entire roast chicken that he's able to drag upstairs.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Let him take that food upstairs. Yeah, yeah.
[00:41:55] Speaker B: She doesn't care because she thinks he's just got a fruitful imagination, which he wouldn't have to resort to his imagination. Mitch, if you'd get him a real dog.
And he's putting his foot down. He's not going to get a real dog until Stanley is old enough to take care of it. Well, I'd say he's old enough to take care of it. He's feeding these other foundlings in his bedroom.
Now, apparently we find out some backstory on Mitch here. He also lives in perpetual fear of being fired. He's had a rough time at the office lately, but Sylvia worries about Stanley.
[00:42:33] Speaker A: And I guess we're to infer that Sylvia is barren.
[00:42:36] Speaker B: Well, maybe.
Or maybe it's like my grandmother, Mrs. White, after her second child. The doctor says, no more.
Now, up in Stanley's room, they're all enjoying this chicken.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: Did Mrs. White always have a crookedy spine?
[00:42:56] Speaker B: I mean, as long as I knew her, she did, but I don't think always. She was a flapper, you know, in the 20s and owned a candy store, apparently, that she never told anybody about.
So now the gnome and the leprechaun are fighting, of course, because you know how Irish people are and you know how German people are.
Now, Stanley's taken to calling the monster Spot.
And the monster says, I wish you'd continue to call me Matthew.
Spot is the ridiculous name. Oh, the monster doesn't lisp. Sorry. Spot is a ridiculous name.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: And he says, those two clowns, those two gnomes.
[00:43:38] Speaker B: One's a gnome and one's a leprechaun.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: Leprechaun are a bad influence on Stanley.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: I agree. They're hitting each other over. Hitting each other over the head with bats and things.
The monster goes to get in bed and it finds it's full of fish and snakes and lizards and things.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: Which would stink.
[00:43:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
So I can't tell if it was Stanley that pulled this practical joke or the gnome. Oh, it must have been Stanley, because the monster says, I've got to talk to Stanley's father about this.
He'll throw me out. But these gnome and leprechaun are bad influence on the boy. I must make the sacrifice for the boy.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: He's very sweet, isn't it?
[00:44:21] Speaker B: Yes.
Next day at school, Seymour's trying to cheat off Stanley's paper.
[00:44:28] Speaker A: Mm.
[00:44:30] Speaker B: The teacher asks, what's.
[00:44:31] Speaker A: Who's that talking during the test? Is it you, Seymour? Forgive me, teacher, but Stanley stole my pencil.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: Oh, Seymour's such a liar.
Well, Stanley gets the pencil.
The teacher says they both have to stay after school.
[00:44:45] Speaker A: Right. Stanley gets the pencil, stands it up. Under like. Stands it up. That's just dangerous.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah, but it serves Seymour right.
[00:44:53] Speaker A: Seymour sits on the pencil.
[00:44:54] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: Which is upright. And gets himself stabbed in the butt.
[00:44:58] Speaker B: Good.
Meanwhile, at Stanley's house, Sylvia has left.
Mitch has come home early from work.
The tension and pressure at the office are so great I had to take half day off.
We call that a mental health day in this period, Mitch.
Only you're not supposed to tell people. That's what you're doing. You just need half day for doctor's appointment or something.
So monster creeps right down into the living room, wakes Mitch up from a dead sleep.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: Pardon me, sir, but this is quite important. Eek.
[00:45:37] Speaker B: A monster.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: No, I'm really quite real.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: So Mitch thinks that the pressure has driven him around the band.
[00:45:44] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: And he says, wait a minute. You're Stanley's dog?
[00:45:51] Speaker A: Well, he likes to think so, but I'm actually a 3000 year old monster.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: I live upstairs with him and a gremlin, a dwarf, and the ghost of Napoleon.
[00:46:01] Speaker A: Although I expect the ghost is an imposter.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah, we all do. Monster.
All right, so monster thinks the father apparently has no more stomach for the truth than Stanley does. So I'll just have to use the same ridiculous story on him. Ha, ha. Just kidding. You're quite right. I am a dog. A rather rare breed.
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Then he proceeds to act like a dog by running around the room, fetching his slippers. Fetching the father's slippers.
[00:46:28] Speaker B: Playing dead, scratching fleas.
Boy, you really are a dog, fella.
[00:46:34] Speaker A: At that moment, Stanley quietly returns home. Boy, mom will blow her top when
[00:46:38] Speaker B: she hears the teacher.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: Punish me for.
Hey, Dad's home talking with somebody.
[00:46:44] Speaker B: They're having tea. The Monster and Mitch are having tea together and smoking pipes.
And Monster's making all kinds of sense. This change in Stanley's character may be serious, while Stanley thinks it's wonderful that they've met. But here comes the gnome and the dwarf or whatever they are, downstairs to remind Stanley that his dad doesn't want him to even have a dog at all.
Right.
And what happens when your father finds out about the rest of us, including Napoleon's ghost, all of a sudden showing up?
[00:47:19] Speaker A: Mm.
[00:47:21] Speaker B: Now, Mitch is delighted. He loves this dog.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: He does.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: You're a strange dog. But a good one. I was beginning to think I'd lost my mind. All that talk about monsters and gremlins and things.
[00:47:31] Speaker A: Yes, he's just a. Just an idle joke, sir.
Now, about Stanley. A certain eminent child psychologist named. Sir. What is it? You look as if you thought you'd seen a ghost. And indeed he sees Napoleon, the ghost.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: Napoleon's a ghost who has come downstairs looking for wine, of course, because you know how Frenchmen are.
[00:47:51] Speaker A: Yeah, they're always drinking.
[00:47:55] Speaker B: Well, Monster. Mitch passes out.
Monster says Napoleon, ghost.
You've spoiled everything. Just when I was starting, he was starting to believe I was real.
When Napoleon leaves, Mr. Dover wakes up.
Monster continues to explain that it was probably just a trick of the light.
But then Mitch sees the gnome and the dwarf and Monster chases them away while Mitch says, I.
Ghosts and little people, they must all be illusions. And that means you must be an illusion too.
And at that point, Mrs. Dover. Mrs. Dover. Sylvia.
[00:48:45] Speaker A: Sylvia. She's on her way home, but she's had her eyes examined.
[00:48:49] Speaker B: She's on her way home from the eye doctor. And she's had those drops that make you not able to see anything.
[00:48:54] Speaker A: Right?
[00:48:55] Speaker B: Don't worry, she wasn't driving. She walked.
Because it's the city in the 60s and you can walk everywhere.
All right. She can hardly find the key to put in the lock, but she finally makes it into the house. Oh, Sheila. It's not Sylvia. Sorry, everyone. I'm not gonna go back and edit. It's Sheila and Mitch.
Now, he says, sheila, think very carefully before you answer this question.
Do you see a ten foot dog with red hair smoking A pipe.
[00:49:29] Speaker A: Do I see Hua? Of all the ridiculous things. Of course I don't see anything of the sort.
[00:49:33] Speaker B: She does, but she thinks it's her eye drops.
Mitch says, speak, dogs, speak. But Stanley puts his hand over Monster's mouth and says, don't say a word. Do you want us all to get chucked out of here?
Well, now Mitch thinks he's crazy for sure because he thinks he's the only one that could see the monster.
I think I need a long rest.
[00:49:55] Speaker A: Of course, Siela is talking to and stroking the cheek of a statue on the mantel, saying, yes, sweetheart, shh. Just calm down. Everything will be fine.
[00:50:04] Speaker B: A bust of Beethoven that they happen to have on the mantel.
You know, I believe we had a bust of Beethoven on our upright piano.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: I'm sure it was small.
[00:50:14] Speaker B: It was very much smaller than this. Yes.
We didn't have anything on our mantel, I don't believe.
Mrs. White, however, had three Royal Doulton figurines, which I now have in my possession of a lovely dancing ladies and ladies.
[00:50:30] Speaker A: Even tea or.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: Yes. Oh, I love those little Regency gowned ladies having a lovely garden party.
All right, upstairs, Monster, says Stanley. I thought you always wanted your father to see me.
Well, yes, but not until he's ready. Now, I've got a surprise for you.
[00:50:52] Speaker A: F. F. F. F. Me? But you don't know my birthday, Stanley.
[00:50:56] Speaker B: It's cake with candles.
[00:50:57] Speaker A: Cake with candles.
[00:50:58] Speaker B: No, but I decided to make your birthday today. Cause it's be kind of Dog's day. Aw.
And the dwarf says, I. You thought this kid was getting too vile.
[00:51:10] Speaker A: Oh, forgive me, Stanley.
[00:51:13] Speaker B: And in the next room, Mitch is in bed feeling much better, but he's decided to take a few more days off and I'm going to spend them with our son.
[00:51:23] Speaker A: Aw.
[00:51:25] Speaker B: I liked this story. I did too.
[00:51:27] Speaker A: It's very sweet, isn't it?
[00:51:28] Speaker B: You know what else? I even liked Sugar and Spike. And you know, that was a hard sell for me, but I'm coming around.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: Yeah, you didn't hear me saying all those stupid kids and all blah, blah, blah. No, no, I really like that. This story. I was okay with Sugar and Spike.
[00:51:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:43] Speaker A: But I really liked Stanley and his monster.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: I did, too.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: Well, you know, I think I like those stories generally.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:51:51] Speaker A: The Stanley and his monster story.
[00:51:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it's very something.
[00:51:55] Speaker A: Very something nostalgic of a childhood that.
Where you can have a vivid imagination.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:52:01] Speaker A: You know, and no consequences for your silliness.
[00:52:04] Speaker B: Right.
And beat up bullies in school. Unlike me and Cinda Weber.
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[00:52:56] Speaker A: The Mystery Might not the way it used to be, Looking into a king leaving it all behind.
